Rudd is alarmed and alert (and pretty dumb)
Labor's shadow foreign minister Kevin "Watch your back, Kim" Rudd, is apparently alarmed that John Howard wouldn't rule out the possibility of suicide bombings in Australia:
Here's a tip for you Kevvie boy;
Shut. Up.
Just shut the fuck up. When are more politicians going to realise that being in opposition does not mean that you have to try and put shit on the government of the day no matter what they say. Only an idiot would rule out suicide bombers - it isn't very difficult to do.
On the subject of suicide bombers and suchlike, I've been hearing a fair bit lately about 'radical Muslim clerics' inciting the gullible hordes to rise up and vanquish the infidel. I haven't heard much from radical clerics, mind you, but enough people have to convince me that it may be happening. What I don't understand is why they haven't been arrested for treason. I mean, anybody is allowed to make an arrest for treason, check this out:
Pay particular attention to 80.1 f(ii), 80.2 b, and 80.8 b.
BTW, the citizen's arrest thing comes under common law - according to Tan and Tan:
I would have thought treason was a felony, but heh, I'm only a farmboy. Anyhoo, how hard would it be to pretend to be a towel headed camel fucking IslamofascistTM, wander into a mosque with a 70mm panamax widescreen movie camera stuffed up your robe, get the goods on the Imam and put the smackdown on his candy ass?
Labor's foreign affairs spokesman Kevin Rudd is alarmed by Prime Minister John Howard's comments that the possibility of suicide bombing attacks in Australia like those seen last week in London cannot be ruled out.
Mr Howard says he does not believe the Government's decision to redeploy soldiers to Afghanistan will make Australia more of a target but says he cannot count out the possibility of an attack here.
"We shouldn't complacently imagine that there aren't potentially suicide bombers in this country," Mr Howard said.
Mr Rudd says if Mr Howard has intelligence about potential threats he should make it public.
"If you have have no intelligence that there are suicide bombers in Australia, then make that plain to the Australian people as well," he said.
Here's a tip for you Kevvie boy;
Shut. Up.
Just shut the fuck up. When are more politicians going to realise that being in opposition does not mean that you have to try and put shit on the government of the day no matter what they say. Only an idiot would rule out suicide bombers - it isn't very difficult to do.
On the subject of suicide bombers and suchlike, I've been hearing a fair bit lately about 'radical Muslim clerics' inciting the gullible hordes to rise up and vanquish the infidel. I haven't heard much from radical clerics, mind you, but enough people have to convince me that it may be happening. What I don't understand is why they haven't been arrested for treason. I mean, anybody is allowed to make an arrest for treason, check this out:
SECURITY LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (TERRORISM) ACT 2002
No. 65, 2002
Schedule 1—Amendments relating to treason and terrorism
Criminal Code Act 1995
1
The Schedule (after Chapter 4 of the Criminal
Code)
Insert:
Chapter 5—The security of the Commonwealth
Note: If either the Criminal Code Amendment (Espionage and Related Offences) Act 2002 or the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism Act 2002 receives the Royal Assent on or before the day on which this Act receives the Royal Assent, this item does not commence at all. See subsection 2(3) of this Act.
2
The Schedule (Chapter 5 of the Criminal Code)
Insert in the appropriate numerical position:
Part 5.1—Treason
Division 80—Treason
80.1 Treason
(1)
A person commits an offence, called treason, if the person:
(a)
causes the death of the Sovereign, the heir apparent of the Sovereign, the consort of the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister; or
(b)
causes harm to the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister resulting in the death of the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister; or
(c)
causes harm to the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister, or imprisons or restrains the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister; or
(d)
levies war, or does any act preparatory to levying war, against the Commonwealth; or
(e)
engages in conduct that assists by any means whatever, with intent to assist, an enemy:
(i)
at war with the Commonwealth, whether or not the existence of a state of war has been declared; and
(ii)
specified by Proclamation made for the purpose of this paragraph to be an enemy at war with the Commonwealth; or
(f)
engages in conduct that assists by any means whatever, with intent to assist:
(i)
another country; or
(ii)
an organisation;
that is engaged in armed hostilities against the Australian Defence Force; or
(g)
instigates a person who is not an Australian citizen to make an armed invasion of the Commonwealth or a Territory of the Commonwealth; or
(h)
forms an intention to do any act referred to in a preceding paragraph and manifests that intention by an overt act.
Penalty: Imprisonment for life.
(1A)
Paragraphs (1)(e) and (f) do not apply to engagement in conduct by way of, or for the purposes of, the provision of aid of a humanitarian nature.
Note: A defendant bears an evidential burden in relation to the matter in subsection (1A). See subsection 13.3(3).
(1B)
Paragraph (1)(h) does not apply to formation of an intention to engage in conduct that:
(a)
is referred to in paragraph (1)(e) or (f); and
(b)
is by way of, or for the purposes of, the provision of aid of a humanitarian nature.
Note: A defendant bears an evidential burden in relation to the matter in subsection (1B). See subsection 13.3(3).
(2)
A person commits an offence if the person:
(a)
receives or assists another person who, to his or her knowledge, has committed treason with the intention of allowing him or her to escape punishment or apprehension; or
(b)
knowing that another person intends to commit treason, does not inform a constable of it within a reasonable time or use other reasonable endeavours to prevent the commission of the offence.
Penalty: Imprisonment for life.
(3)
Proceedings for an offence against this section must not be commenced without the Attorney-General's written consent.
(4)
Despite subsection (3):
(a)
a person may be arrested for an offence against this section; or
(b)
a warrant for the arrest of a person for such an offence may be issued and executed;
and the person may be charged, and may be remanded in custody or on bail, but:
(c)
no further proceedings may be taken until that consent has been obtained; and
(d)
the person must be discharged if proceedings are not continued within a reasonable time.
(5)
On the trial of a person charged with treason on the ground that he or she formed an intention to do an act referred to in paragraph (1)(a), (b), (c), (d), (e), (f) or (g) and manifested that intention by an overt act, evidence of the overt act is not to be admitted unless the overt act is alleged in the indictment.
(6)
Section 24F of the Crimes Act 1914 applies to this section in the same way it would if this section were a provision of Part II of that Act.
(7)
Section 15.4 (extended geographical jurisdiction—category D) applies to an offence against this section.
(8)
In this section:
constable means a member or special member of the Australian Federal Police or a member of the police force or police service of a State or Territory.
organisation means:
(a)
a body corporate; or
(b)
an unincorporated body;
whether or not the body is based outside Australia, consists of persons who are not Australian citizens, or is part of a larger organisation.
Pay particular attention to 80.1 f(ii), 80.2 b, and 80.8 b.
BTW, the citizen's arrest thing comes under common law - according to Tan and Tan:
At common law, a private person’s power of arrest without warrant are extremely limited. A private person may arrest a person who has committed treason or felony or whom he reasonably suspects of having committed treason or felony.
I would have thought treason was a felony, but heh, I'm only a farmboy. Anyhoo, how hard would it be to pretend to be a towel headed camel fucking IslamofascistTM, wander into a mosque with a 70mm panamax widescreen movie camera stuffed up your robe, get the goods on the Imam and put the smackdown on his candy ass?
4 Comments:
What's Mulgrew?
Ummm, Jason Mulgrew, maybe?
Good point Dirk, why are not calls to jihad and terrorism classified as treason ?
Because authorities in Britain and Australian have until now considered such calls as-wait for it-'free speech'!
Jesus wept...
It seems pretty clear cut to me Adrian, if these blokes are indeed making calls to Jihad then they are committing treason and anybody (including those who are making the allegations) is allowed to arrest them.
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