Socialized medicine still sucks, it just sucks a little less than American medicine. Canada has all manner of trouble with their plans, which is why Canadians with aything more complex than an appendectomy tend to come to the US for medical care. Additionally, try to get in to see a doctor in the UK.
og, Additionally, try to get in to see a doctor in the UK. Apparently they don't need to. They live longer anyway. And wasn't 'og' a character on It's About Time? I know all about culture and stuff. Rat, yup. Although Dad's been getting some pretty nifty stuff done with next to no waiting. He's still got the platinum plated private cover from when Mum was crook, though.
Actually, they do. We have an office there, and the guys all come here for things like meds. Or they have me ship them to them.
People live longer, I think, because they don't have all the readily available crappy food we have here.
Actually, they don't have much there I'd call food at all.
SEEing a doctor, anywhere, is probably the WORST thing you can do with your health. When I was single, and never went to a doctor, I smoked 4 packs a day, drank like a fish, and was in great shape. When I started going to doctors, I stopped smoking, stopped drinking, gained weight, and now have a host of medical issues. It's doctors that CAUSE that shit, I believe, just for their own job security.
I made "og" up. I don't know if it's used elsewhere, it might be.
og, I don't think that you can give the credit to the food. Britain is the spiritual home of the removal of nutritional value. If the food there isn't deep fried, then it is boiled until resembles a pale, limp shadow of its former self.
Anyone with a reason to live and a valuable contribution to make can't see a doctor in the UK because waiting rooms are full of (a) the elderly who otherwise wouldn't see another living soul from one week to the next and so invent interesting symptoms to justify a call on the quack and (b) kids whose parents have no idea how to feed their offspring a balanced and nutritous diet and who consequently suffer a succession of minor but disgusting conditions (c) idiots who are often the parents of the above and have no idea how to look after themselves.
I was more referring to the fact that there's probably three tons of sugar on the shelves of the average gas station. And to top that all off, there are a host of restaurants here that will take something that is already horribly fattening, like a twinkie, which is pretty much sugar and lard, and roll it in batter and deep fry it, adding oil to the mix, and drizzle chocolate and powdered sugar over it. England is full of bland and nasty food that you can develop a real hatred for. America is full of tasty and horrible food that you can become incredibly addicted to.
Enyo, the waiting rooms over here are the same. Probably the world over. og, dunno about England, but I know deep-fried Mars Bars are popular in Scotland. I take your point, though. I've gained fifty kilos everytime I've eaten at an American's house. Rager, what did your elf have to do with it?
I agree that it has to do with the food in America.. Most of the diseases listed in that article can be directly related to the food we eat. My friend lived in England for a while though, and like og, said the food is horribly bland. She hated the socialized health care... We do have some socialized type establishments here, but I think I'd rather bleed to death in a more sanitary environment, like an alley somewhere..
Oh well, we may not be as healthy as them, but we certainly have nicer teeth and we smell better.. :)
dt, I'll take your word for it ... i'm with og on this - as a rule I avoid doctors for fear of coming down with something (I have a quasi-legal obligation to take the offspring to the quack from time to time but otherwise avoid like the plague)
red, most Brits don't have teeth worth mentioning - most Brits couldn't get to see a dentist for love or money: the reductio ad absurdum of socialised medicine
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Socialized medicine still sucks, it just sucks a little less than American medicine. Canada has all manner of trouble with their plans, which is why Canadians with aything more complex than an appendectomy tend to come to the US for medical care. Additionally, try to get in to see a doctor in the UK.
the more our system gets privatised, the worse it's getting.
og,
Additionally, try to get in to see a doctor in the UK.
Apparently they don't need to. They live longer anyway. And wasn't 'og' a character on It's About Time? I know all about culture and stuff.
Rat,
yup.
Although Dad's been getting some pretty nifty stuff done with next to no waiting. He's still got the platinum plated private cover from when Mum was crook, though.
Actually, they do. We have an office there, and the guys all come here for things like meds. Or they have me ship them to them.
People live longer, I think, because they don't have all the readily available crappy food we have here.
Actually, they don't have much there I'd call food at all.
SEEing a doctor, anywhere, is probably the WORST thing you can do with your health. When I was single, and never went to a doctor, I smoked 4 packs a day, drank like a fish, and was in great shape. When I started going to doctors, I stopped smoking, stopped drinking, gained weight, and now have a host of medical issues. It's doctors that CAUSE that shit, I believe, just for their own job security.
I made "og" up. I don't know if it's used elsewhere, it might be.
og,
I don't think that you can give the credit to the food. Britain is the spiritual home of the removal of nutritional value. If the food there isn't deep fried, then it is boiled until resembles a pale, limp shadow of its former self.
so you have eaten here, then...
Anyone with a reason to live and a valuable contribution to make can't see a doctor in the UK because waiting rooms are full of (a) the elderly who otherwise wouldn't see another living soul from one week to the next and so invent interesting symptoms to justify a call on the quack and (b) kids whose parents have no idea how to feed their offspring a balanced and nutritous diet and who consequently suffer a succession of minor but disgusting conditions (c) idiots who are often the parents of the above and have no idea how to look after themselves.
Ain't socialism a wonderful thing.
I was more referring to the fact that there's probably three tons of sugar on the shelves of the average gas station. And to top that all off, there are a host of restaurants here that will take something that is already horribly fattening, like a twinkie, which is pretty much sugar and lard, and roll it in batter and deep fry it, adding oil to the mix, and drizzle chocolate and powdered sugar over it. England is full of bland and nasty food that you can develop a real hatred for. America is full of tasty and horrible food that you can become incredibly addicted to.
"If the food there isn't deep fried, then it is boiled until resembles a pale, limp shadow of its former self"
I think I've mentioned before that I'm secon-generation Irish~American... One day I was in this book store and saw a book titled 'Irish Cusine'
I pissed myelf laughing.
Enyo,
the waiting rooms over here are the same. Probably the world over.
og,
dunno about England, but I know deep-fried Mars Bars are popular in Scotland. I take your point, though. I've gained fifty kilos everytime I've eaten at an American's house.
Rager,
what did your elf have to do with it?
I agree that it has to do with the food in America.. Most of the diseases listed in that article can be directly related to the food we eat. My friend lived in England for a while though, and like og, said the food is horribly bland. She hated the socialized health care... We do have some socialized type establishments here, but I think I'd rather bleed to death in a more sanitary environment, like an alley somewhere..
Oh well, we may not be as healthy as them, but we certainly have nicer teeth and we smell better.. :)
dt, I'll take your word for it ... i'm with og on this - as a rule I avoid doctors for fear of coming down with something (I have a quasi-legal obligation to take the offspring to the quack from time to time but otherwise avoid like the plague)
red, most Brits don't have teeth worth mentioning - most Brits couldn't get to see a dentist for love or money: the reductio ad absurdum of socialised medicine
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